End of ADS-L Digest - 10 May 1998 to 11 May 1998
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<br>There are 29 messages totalling 945 lines in this issue.
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<br>Topics of the day:
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<br>  1. Beijing /j/ (17)
<br>  2. Viagra; Hopefully; Lobby; Covered Wagon; Peace Pipe; Valedictory; et al.
<br>  3. been: Ben vs. bin
<br>  4. Viagra
<br>  5. hearn
<br>  6. Oz Catch Phrase in the making
<br>  7. Missourianisms
<br>  8. CaRIBbean (was Beijing /j/) (2)
<br>  9. nativizing pronunciations
<br> 10. theorizing on pronunciation
<br> 11. nativisms
<br> 12. Hair Cut
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<br>Date:    Wed, 13 May 1998 00:14:49 -0500
<br>From:    "Donald M. Lance" <engdl[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]SHOWME.MISSOURI.EDU>
<br>Subject: Re: Beijing /j/
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<br>>Does anyone know why the j in Beijing is frequently pronounced as if French?
<br>>The Mandarin pronunciation is clearly like a "regular" English j, and the
<br>>switch from Peking happened recently enough that it shouldn't have gotten
<br>>mixed up.
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<br>For the same reason people say 'machete' and 'Chicano' as if they were
<br>French words.  Also the -ch- in 'Appalachian', said like 'appelation'.  And
<br>some other words I can't think of at the moment.  Radio and TV announcers
<br>seem to have a rule that says "when in doubt, assume French origin."  But,
<br>when in doubt, -ei- is treated as if it were German.  Thirty or so years
<br>ago, before news people knew that Brunei existed, I knew someone from
<br>there.  He said it 'bru-nay'.  Now we just hear 'bru-nigh'.
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<br>DMLance
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