Date:    Wed, 13 May 1998 12:13:02 -0400
<br>From:    Larry Horn <laurence.horn[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]YALE.EDU>
<br>Subject: Re: Beijing /j/
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<br>At 9:52 AM -0700 5/13/98, Garland D Bills wrote:
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<br>>        In my experience, the if-foreign-then-French rule is salient.
<br>>There may be other things going on with Chicano (dialect variation in
<br>>Spanish showing both [sh] and [ch]). However, when you encounter -- even
<br>>in New Mexico!! -- people who will pronounce the surname Cha'vez (with
<br>>stress on the first syllable) as [shave'] (with stress on the second
<br>>syllable), I feel pretty confident those people are working with a
<br>>[+French] procedure. And maybe a host of attitudinal baggage.
<br>>
<br>Well, maybe.  But I've heard Cesar Chavez's surname pronounced CHA-vez (or
<br>CHA-v'z), while the place where Dodger Stadium resides--Chavez Ravine--is
<br>virtually always Anglicized to shuh-VEZ ra-VEEN, not to Garland's
<br>Francophile [shave'] or to the more faithful chuh-VEZ.
<br>
<br>Larry
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