Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 19:24:54 -0700
From: Bill King
Subject: Re: nativisms

California goes nativist too. Vallejo/VuhLAY-ho, Vacaville/Vackaville,
Chowchilla (guess!), SACKremen-o, Loss Annjealous (Loss Angle-ease), and
Sandy-ay-go are not quite on target.

Here's something to chew on.
Upstate New York also has several cities and towns with names of foreign
countries
and cities such as Cuba, Poland, Norway, Peru, Russia , Madrid, Rome, Naples,
Salamanca, Waterloo, Lisbon, Warsaw, Paris, Troy, Syracuse, Carthage, Utica,
and
Corinth All of these have English spellings, but for a subset, the native
language spelling is the same as the English spelling. So, if people use the
English pronunciation of, say, Cuba, is this going nativist?
Next: Oneida, Oswego, Ticonderoga.

Bill King



Larry Horn wrote:

> At 5:22 PM -0400 5/13/98, Beverly Flanigan (or someone she was quoting?)
wrote:
> >>And then there's Peru, IN [pe ru], stress on first syllable; Chile, IN
> >>[chai li]; Brazil, IN [brae z[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]l], stress on first; Cairo, IL [ke ro];
> >>Milan, MN [mai l[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]n], stress on first; Bellefontaine, OH, semi-calqued to
> >>'Bellefountain'....
> >>
> Upstate New Yorkers go nativist with a vengeance. The Chili that's a
> suburb of Rochester is [CHAI lai], as in "jai alai"
>
> Larry