Date:  Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:23:01 -0500

From:  Grant Barrett <gbarrett[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]KB.COM>

Subject: Re: [p*tut]



 RE>>[p*tut]

A more current reference to patootie would be Oliver North's very public

statement before the election that he could Rgive a ratUs patootieS about

something or other. He obviously used it as meaning ratUs ass (if youUll pardon

the indelicate language).



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Date: 4/20/95 9:04 AM

To: Grant Barrett

From: American Dialect Society

OK, so I was wrong about the Laugh-In connection, but it appears that (at least

from the time of the e. e. cummings quote) a (horse's) patoot(ie) was indeed

the hindquarters of the relevant animal, hence 'you bet your sweet patootie'.

Here's an interesting speculation on its source from someone off-list (Barbara

Abbott, Michigan State U.):



>I do remember "You bet your sweet patootie", and I never saw Laugh-In.

>(I've also heard "You bet your sweet bippie" though too -- maybe from

>people who did see Laugh-In.) Anyway, I always thought patootie meant rear

>end, but maybe there's another etymology. That first phrase (from David

>Bergdahl) about a horse's patoot made me think they were referring to road

>apples (similar (in substance if not form) to what we used to call "cow

>pies"), and why not call them horse potatoes (they look more like potatoes

>than apples anyway!)? From there ("horse's patootie") it would be a

>natural blunder to reconstrue "patootie"/"patoot" as rear end, and

>something worthy of betting.



Sounds good to me. And let it no longer be said that I don't know my bippy

from my patootie.

--Larry