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Subject: ADS-L Digest - 27 Aug 1997 to 28 Aug 1997
There are 17 messages totalling 463 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

 1. fall and autumn (2)
 2. Rat=Freshman; Football Terms (3)
 3. autumn (3)
 4. three-track road
 5. RE>three-track road (3)
 6. Queries: _Am. Tongues_ & Slang (3)
 7. RE>three-track road; Damon Runyon
 8. Damon Runyon

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Date:  Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:35:11 +0900
From:  Daniel Long <dlong[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]X.AGE.OR.JP>
Subject: fall and autumn

I have some questions about the use of "autumn" and "fall" in the US and
UK.

OED says for "fall":
In N. Amer. the ordinary name for autumn; in England now rare in
literary use, though found in some dialects; spring and fall, the fall
of the year, are, however, in fairly common use.

OED says for "autumn":
Popularly, it comprises, in Great Britain, August, September, and
October (J.); in North America, September, October, and November
(Webster)

For "fall", does this mean that "fall" is rare EVEN in literary use in
the UK, and thus not used in conversational speech?

For "autumn", I agree with what they say it being from Sept to Dec in
North America. Does it indeed start in August in UK usage? Any
insights, opinions?

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