Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 08:36:00 CDT
From: JOAN H HALL JOANHALL[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MACC.WISC.EDU
Subject: Re: some U.S. "Midland" regionalisms?
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Subject: some U.S. "Midland" regionalisms?
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 19:10:01 -0600
From: Tim Frazer mftcf[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU
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Subject: some U.S. "Midland" regionalisms?
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Query 1: In west central Illinois, I hear the following use
of progressive aspect with "want" which seems unusual:
I've been wantin' one of those for a long time.
Are you wantin' an appointment next Friday?
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I would expect to hear "I've wanted" and "Do you want."
Are these regionalisms? Have you heard anything like it/them,
and if so, where? (People who use these forms are likely to use
other well-known "Midland" markers, including warsh/warshington.
Query 2. Somewhere is a paper in which Kurath's attribution to
elliptical structures like "the cat wants in" to Pa. German infl.
is challenged. The author suggests Gaelic (demographically, Scotch-
Irish) influence instead. Where did I see this?
Query 3. The distribution of constructions like "the car needs washed"
or "the grass needs mowed" seem to originate in areas Kurath called
"Midland." In Illinois the areas where this from is accepted seem
to recall the old Northern-Midland division. Has anyone sen evidence that
NEEDS + V + -ED is associated with the Scotch-Irish?
Tim Frazer
Tim,
The Scottish National Dictionary, at _need_ v. 4 says "Used with _pa.p._
instead of _vbl.n_ as in Eng. Gen. Sc." and gives these examples:
"This lock needs sortit." "The hail house needs guttit." "The first
driver on the list really did not need wakened."
DARE has found numerous examples of the construction "I've been knowing him
for twenty years," most of them coming from the Gulf States.
Joan Hall, DARE