Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 15:12:04 -0800 From: "Thomas L. Clark" Subject: Dark-thirty, quarter to dawn After Don Lance shocked me by mentioning "dark-thirty," I got to racking my brain to recall if I'd heard it from others. Nope. To me it was a family item only. Then I realized we were also taught at the old man's fishing knee about "quarter to dawn," when we headed for the river. Maybe these WEREN'T family items. He was born in Mason City, IA and grew up in Fergus Falls, MN. Do any of you have them? Note: It was "quarter TO dawn." Tom Clark tlc[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]nevada.edu