End of ADS-L Digest - 6 Dec 1993 to 7 Dec 1993

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Topics of the day:



 1. The /x/ sounds in Scots and Dutch (6)

 2. Hello and help!

 3. reply to Williams



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Date:  Wed, 8 Dec 1993 08:26:27 +0100

From:  Hans Vappula <guchw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]GD.CHALMERS.SE>

Subject: The /x/ sounds in Scots and Dutch



Robert Kelly says, on the /x/ sounds in Scots and Dutch:

>sound lost in initial position in Scots, to be clearer.

>the g's in Dutch geen and Dutch gracht

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>and to my ear in Scotland, the loch is less affricated.

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>But we hear what we want to hear.



Robert,

You're right, there _is_ a difference, even to my ear.

I'm not exactly a fluent speaker of Dutch :-), so I can't say how big it is.

But it's there - though I find the ch in loch and g in geen to be pretty

close to each other, but, as you point out, they're not quite the same.

Although they of course could be for _some_ bilingual speakers of

Scots/Dutch (an analogy to the earlier pin/pen debate here).

//H.



//Hans Vappula, Gothenburg Universities' Computing Centre, G|teborg, Sweden

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