Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 12:46:06 CST From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: I before E As I've read and deleted postings on ei/ie I've been trying to recall the rhyme that someone else mentioned: "I before e, except after c, or when sounded like ay, as in neighbor and weigh." I've also heard a little ditty that follows the rhyme and lists most of the exceptions, but I was never able to learn the ditty (nor interested in doing so). The Simon & Schuster Handbook (1987) lists the exceptions, with the comment "Because there are so few exceptions, they are worth memorizing": ie conscience, financier, science, species ei counterfeit, either, foreign, forfeit, height, leisure neither, seize, sleight, weird The list is two chunks of the magic number 7, so one should be able to memorize them -- sure! DMLance