Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 16:43:25 -0700 From: Rudy Troike Subject: Re: /w/ and /hw/ Dennis, The OED says the /u:/ is common in England, and attributes the lowering (or retention thereof) to the influence of the -/r/, but considering it a more "vulgar" pronunciation. Interesting, but not surprisingly, I've never heard the /u:/ (or /uw/, as I prefer to write it). Rudy