Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 22:51:40 -0500 From: "H Stephen STRAIGHT (Binghamton University, SUNY)" Subject: Re: Unauth Index to "American Tongues" - Improvements Invited Dear Terry, I'm finally getting on to you! You're not a nasty after all, even though you present yourself as one. Now that I see the entire exchange between you and Bethany and you and me, your point appears to be that Bethany had needlessly and amateurishly (though uncompensatedly) duplicated the (presumably compensated) efforts of Walt Wolfram, whose work she would certainly have been aware of if she had acquired "American Tongues" as an "authorized purchase". Moral: we should note (and condemn) the (implied) breech of copyright. Nice point! You're absolutely correct about this, however much we may inveigh against budgetary and other impediments to proper behavior on the part of many hard-pressed and/or ethically lax colleagues. I only wish you'd spelled out the basis of your objection. Your initial response came across as smug and pedantic. Specifically, I wish you'd mentioned that Walt's outline came with the tapes (as opposed to having been published in a refereed journal), because as it happens my own program has ended up with TWO "authorized purchase" originals (as opposed to copies?, English fails me here) of this tape -- due to professors' failure to communicate with each other about their mutual interest -- and we still lack adequate supplementary materials (despite Walt's efforts, I guess). Furthermore, we should consider the possibility that Bethany's original lacks Walt's guide because Bethany's colleagues have lost or misplaced it rather than because she or they copied the program illegally. Why didn't you ask her and other interested parties to obtain the material supplied with the tape rather than leave us wondering where Wolfram's comments could be found? Maybe this is the point where I should admit that your response to Bethany struck me at the outset as a hostile and unreasonable attack. In retrospect, though, I see that you clearly have VERY important things to convey to all of us, even if your angle of approach may lead many to misconstrue both the intent and the content of your messages. Too bad! In any case, though, I'll now be (tentatively) a TLI defender. However tempted I may be to continue to dismiss your messages as 'Net-induced flames, I'll now at least read them twice before doing so. Thanks for the lesson in tolerance, even if it came with a TLI-inflicted wound I'll wear forever. Peace. On Thu, 14 Dec 1995, Terry Lynn Irons wrote: > Try interlibrary loan. Best. 'Bye. Steve H Stephen STRAIGHT Binghamton University (SUNY) Anthropology & Linguistics LxC Box 6000, Binghamton NY 13902-6000 Dir, Langs Across the Curric VOX: 607-777-2824; FAX: 607-777-2889 ["sstraigh", not "sstraight"!]