Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:55:07 -0500 From: RonButters[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]AOL.COM Subject: Re: subculture terms (Zenobia, Jupiter) I believe it was Tim who asked a few days ago, "Do the names "Zenobia" (Xenobia?) and "Jupiter" have any significance in lesbian subculture parlance?" Here are the two answers that I have received to date from a GLB bulletin board; please let me know if anybody has got any others somewhere else: 1. According to my resource, "The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets," by Barbara G. Walker, Harper & Row, C. 1983: Zenobia Dynastic name of matriarchal queens of Palmyra. In their native Aramaic, the name was Bath-Zabbai, or Bath-Sheba, meaning "Daughter of the Goddess." See Solomon and Sheba. The famous queen Zenobia Septimia was the "seventh Bath-Sheba." She had no official consort. She named her son Wahab-Allath, "Gift of the Goddess Allath." Allath was the same Semitic Moon-mother whom Islam later masculinized as Allah. Walker's other book, "The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects," also has a rather lengthy discussion of Jupiter, and the notion that as a youth "Jove," he replaced the Virgin memberof the formerly all-female Capitoline Triad, consisting of Juventas, Juno and Minerva. He, of course, later became Juno's consort. As for uses of these names in Lesbian parlance. . .I've never heard it; and I've been around the block and read a heckuva lot. If you find out about any slang usage, I'd like to know of it. 2. *Z*enobia SHOULD [have significance in lesbian subculture parlance]-- a warrior queen in the Roman empire, commander of Palmyra in Palestine, died 272 A.D.