Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:26:22 -0800

From: THOMAS CLARK tlc[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]NEVADA.EDU

Subject: Re: whoop



Rudy has a very good point about using /ey, iy, ow, ew/

Mine: (Montana, E. Washington)



AND HW for /hw/, because I have it in only one learned place:



1. war /huwp/

2. /huwp/ it up, tonight

3. gave it a /huwp/ and a holler

4. /hwuping/ cough (I had it too), which means my caretakers used /hw/,

and I learned that pronunciation from her (mom) or them (family members

who told me I had it at a young age)

Cheers,

tlc[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]nevada.edu





On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Rudy Troike wrote:



An intriguing question, and surprising to reflect on. I don't have the

/hw/ : /w/ contrast [NB: it's never been /wh/ in history; that's spelling],

so the delabialization is interesting to find alternating with the /w/:



1. war whoop: /huwp/



2. whoop it up: /wUp/, perhaps varying with /wuwp/



3. gave a whoop: /huwp/ & a holler



4. whooping cough: /huwp/ (I had it.)



[NB2: Especially amongst them of us who are interested in comparing varieties,

it is much more useful to adopt the /iy/, /ey/, /uw/, /ow/ representation of

the nuclei (as happily, Akmajian, Demers, and Harnish do in their linguistics

text from MIT, of all places). I can't imagine describing the Great Vowel

Shift without it.]



Tip-O-Tex Troike\\\\\



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