Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:26:08 -0500

From: Mark Mandel Mark[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]DRAGONSYS.COM

Subject: Re: Gry again -Reply



Heilan Yvette Grimes HEP2[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]AOL.COM 12/31/96, 09:56am writes



Go to any search engine (Lycos, Yahoo, etc.) and punch in "gry".

You'll come up with several sites that lists lots of words

ending in gry. One site lists over a hundred words ending in -

gry, plus an explanation of the mistakes in the odd quiz that

usually accompanies the -gry question.







Ms. Grimes is perpetuating the wild goose chase. Yes, one site*

does list 100 words ending in "gry", and other sites (such as the

alt.usage.english FAQ) contain the same list. But the pseudo-

puzzle demands a *common* word.



None of these words are common. Many of them are not English. I am

talking about such all-time first-grade best-sellers as



aggry

bewgry

Egry (France)

ever-angry

hogrymogry

lisnagry

messagry

Schtchigry

ulgry

vergry

Ymagry



* The URL is too long for one line; join the next two lines:

http://einstein.et.tudelft.nl/~arlet/puzzles/sol.cgi/language/

english/spelling/gry



I have taken the following is taken from "The Word Detective"

website. This warning is on the home page:



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I have received, at last count, more than ten

zillion pieces of e-mail on this question, and I

am royally sick of it. In an almost certainly

futile attempt to stem the tide (more of a tidal

wave, actually) of "gry" queries, I have

devised a two-step therapy program for

victims of this particular affliction:



FIRST, I suggest that you pay a visit to this

page for a whole slew of possible answers.



SECOND, I offer this little essay on the

subject.



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"This little essay" is a link to

http://www.users.interport.net/~words1/gry.html ,

from which I excerpt the following. It is

Copyright (c) 1996 Evan Morris



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Conveniently for me, a collection of possible "third words" ending

in "gry" already existed, compiled by the brain-teaser mavens in

the "rec.puzzles" Usenet discussion group on the internet. It

seems that aside from words based on "angry" or "hungry" (such as

"dog-hungry"), Webster's Third New International unabridged

dictionary lists only one word ending in "gry" --"aggry," meaning

a type of prehistoric bead. But it seems quite a stretch to

classify "aggry" as a common English word. Elsewhere, the Oxford

English Dictionary, among others, also lists "gry" as a word all

by itself, meaning a very small distance (about a tenth of an inch

in John Locke's proposed decimal system). The Greek root of "gry"

is noted in the OED as possibly meaning "the grunt of a pig,"

presumably one who was offered "gry" as a solution to this puzzle.

Whether this minimalist "gry" can, in fact, be fairly said to

"end" in "gry" is an existential question, but, in any case, the

OED classifies this particular "gry" as obsolete, so it fails the

"in common use" test.



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Now, I hope we have put this nuisance to bed with a stake through

its heart for the last time, at least on this list, at least until

some newcomer comes running in at full tilt, waving it over his or

her head and screaming for help.



Mark A. Mandel : mark[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]dragonsys.com

Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200

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