Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:42:25 -0500
From: Mark Mandel Mark[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]DRAGONSYS.COM
Subject: change of a ten
I *thought* that expression sounded familiar, though not quite what I think would roll right off
my tongue today, and Greg
Downing pinpointed the origin of it for me:
I've heard it fairly often in NYC, where "change for/of a dollar" came up commonly on buses
throughout the 70s, 80s and
early-to-mid 90s due to the requirement to pay the fare in exact change using coins only (one
doesn't hear it so much
now that people have started to pay the fare with a dip-card). I always imagined the
"for"-construction emphasized the
exchange aspect of making change, and the "of"-construction stated a more vague relationship
between a ten and
whatever you could (ex)change it for.
"I *vas* dere, Sharley", and I remember the situation; and I'll hesitantly suggest an alternative
explanation for the
difference between "of" and "for" here. Normally you ask "Do you have change for an
X(-coin/bill)?" when you are
paying someone an amount, y, that is considerably less than (the value of an) X. The intended
recipient need not have
$X in smaller units to be able to answer "yes" and give you your change, only $(X - y). But on the
bus you are not
asking the driver, who cannot give you change, but other passengers; and you are asking if they
can give you exactly
$X in appropriate smaller units so that you can give the driver y (leaving you with X - y).* And
that may be the
difference that the change in preposition was meant to capture: "Can you give me X in change, in
EXchange for an X?",
rather than "Can you give me the difference between X and the value of my purchase, in exchange
for an X and my
purchase?"
* Nit-pickers' note: You might well be asking the passengers for a different X than you would be
asking the driver for if
he could make change: e.g., if fare = $1.20 and you have only bills and quarters.
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