Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:34:09 -0800
From: Jack Sidnell jsidnell[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: query re _want + (participle) use
I haven't read your analysis in American Speech but in some varieties the
construction is probably not elliptical. In Guyanese Creole you get
di wiil waan ail
the wheel wants oil
"The wheel needs (to be oiled)(oil)."
ii pant waan rob
his pants want rub
"His pants need to be washed."
The desiderative sense of "want" is suspended with inanimate subjects. With
animate subjects such constructions are ambiguous. Thus:
di piknii waan sliip
the child wants sleep
"The child wants to sleep."
"The child needs to sleep."
The senses can be disambiguated by fu.
di piknii waan fu sliip
The child wants to sleep
"The child wants to sleep."
Fu is not acceptable with the nonanimate subjects
*di wiil waan fu ail
*di pant waan fu rob
Hope this helps
Jack Sidnell
UCLA
At 02:18 PM 1/23/98 EST, you wrote:
Dear ADS-L members:
For an article on constructions with elliptical _want + participle_
(e.g. the car wants washed, the car wants washing, the car doesn't want
washed; the infant wants diapered, the infant doesn't want diapered), my
colleague Tom and Murray and I would like to hear from anyone who uses
such a construction or is in an area where such a construction is in
use.
In continuation of our work on elliptical need + p.p. (see Murray,
Frazer, Simon, _American Speech_ winter, 1996), we would also like to
hear from anyone familiar with negative need + past participle
(e.g. the car doesn't need washed, the dogs don't need fed).
Please contact me at
simon[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu
or
simon[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]ipfw.edu
Thanks,
Beth Simon
Assistant Professor, Linguistics and English
Indiana University Purdue University
simon[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu