Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:08:09 -0500 From: Herb Stahlke Subject: Re: Almost about dialect -Reply I recall, a long time ago, a conversation with Ken Pike in which he described taking a series of voice lessons just so that he could learn the impressionistic terminology that voice teachers use. His point was that they had a long and effective tradition of teaching with phonetically fanciful terminology. If I'm not mistaken, his conclusion as to why it worked had to do with the fact that they also demonstrated what they meant, not that the terminology was intrinsically effective. Many voice teachers today have a basic grasp of the physiology and anatomy of voice production, but they still use the same vocabulary because it's so deep in their traditions, and, of course, their students tend to have had no phonetics. Herb Stahlke