End of ADS-L Digest - 25 Jan 1998 to 26 Jan 1998 ************************************************ Subject: ADS-L Digest - 26 Jan 1998 to 27 Jan 1998 There are 21 messages totalling 864 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Sexgate explained; ADS-L again (3) 2. Survey help--new participant (LONG!, detailed) 3. Almost about dialect 4. Survey help again 5. ADS-L guidelines, appreciation doubted (2) 6. "1, 2, 3" 7. Dopp kit and Doppelt again 8. (yeah, right!)++ (2) 9. Phonetic transcription--help (5) 10. Sexgate words (a defense) 11. "zephyr" (= nothing) (2) 12. "to dis" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 02:51:38 EST From: Bapopik Subject: Sexgate explained; ADS-L again SEXGATE EXPLAINED AMERICAN SPEECH has covered "-gate" words not once nor twice, but four times. See "Among the New Words" 53.3 Fall 1978, 54.4 Winter 1979, 56.4 Winter 1981, and 59.2 Summer 1984. Last Friday, it was not at all clear what this thing would be called. President Clinton's "There is no improper sexual relationship" made the news, and a related WASHINGTON POST story with Jesse Sheidlower (an ADS member) was posted here by someone else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- ADS-L AGAIN Tim and Beverly's comments were really directed at something else. If a joke doesn't work, you don't say anything, or you write to me privately. You don't "boo" me in public. They've never "cheered" me in public (and I've posted heaps), so where's the balance? Both Tim and Beverly have written or at least strongly hinted in the past that anyone (me) who posts etymologies is "unprofessional" and shouldn't be on ADS-L. I then suggested a new web format ("Doppkit" would be in NOTES & QUERIES; the Washington Post "Sexgate" article would be reprinted in NEWS) and I even offered to donate money to the American Dialect Society, but nobody was interested! This is all old news, but until there are fundamental changes in the American Dialect Society (i.e., we have publications that cover all parts of the language and we aggressively seek new members who reflect these broadened interests), I'll always be "unprofessional" and unwelcome--no matter how the material is presented.