End of ADS-L Digest - 10 Jul 1997 to 11 Jul 1997 ************************************************ Subject: ADS-L Digest - 11 Jul 1997 to 12 Jul 1997 There are 5 messages totalling 222 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. nasal flaps? (3) 2. lingo (fwd) (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:33:28 -0600 From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: nasal flaps? Garland Bills wrote: > Well and good, Don, but I bet you can't do that without leaving >the velum lowered for the flap/tap! Otherwise, you described quite well >the sound we're concerned with. It is indeed a nasal flap/tap. If someone >wants to call it a "nasalized" flap/tap, fine; that's accurate. (But they >-- or he, if you prefer -- should also be willing to characterize [n] as a >"nasalized stop". Right. It would be very difficult if not impossible to close off the naso-pharynx during the instant of the flap but have it open for preceding and following nasalized vowels. It is also possible to have a flapped /t/ preceded and followed by nasalized vowels. If one has a true "nasal twang" and leaves the naso-pharyngeal passage open while saying everything after the release of /p/ in 'pity', a "nasalized [t]" is produced, with the apico-alveolar closure of a /t/ rather than an /n/. Now that I've thought about the "nasalized t-flap," I would argule that the pronunciation of 'Atlanta' -- at least as I say it -- indeed has a briefly articulated nasal obstruent, which I don't mind calling a nasal flap.