Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:54:02 -0700
From: Peter McGraw pmcgraw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]LINFIELD.EDU
Subject: Re: "is is" (formerly "as best as")
I'm with Bryan's mother. I've been hearing "the 'is' stutter" for a long
time now, and it bothers me, too. I once even heard someone, I think on
the radio, say, "The thing of it is is, is that (there are too many
sheepdogs, or whatever)." Here at Linfield we have a computer director
who will string together five or so "is's" before he quits spinning his
wheels and resumes the sentence.
The first such construction I ever heard was from a friend in a place
where I formerly lived, who was wont to say, "The point being is..."
Obviously he had reanalyzed "being" into a modifier of "point" and thus
still needed a verb. Something of the sort must be happening with the "is
is" utterances, though it seems less clear why.
I, too, have always figured that "as best as" was a conflation of "as
best (you can)" with "as well as (you can)."
Peter
On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bryan Gick wrote:
The recent thread on "as best as" reminds me of something pointed out to
me by my mother. She's been noticing, to her continual annoyance, that
seemingly respectable and well-educated TV newsfolk and politicians have
taken to saying "is" twice in some constructions, like:
"The problem is is there are too many sheepdogs on the board of directors."
This has the same intonation as -- and is presumbably an analogy from --
constructions like: "What the problem is is..."
Anybody heard this?
What the reason the "as best as" thing reminded me of this is is (whew)
that I suspect "as best as" is similarly based on analogy from "to do x as
best one can/could/etc." (without the second "as"). This sounds a bit
archaic to me and wasn't in my native dialect of NW PA, but I have heard
it often in other dialects. Much more common, of course, is the "as...as"
comparative construction, and hence, presumably, the analogy.
Thoughts?
Bryan
On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Duane Campbell wrote:
Watching the Senate Finance Committee hearings just now (I don't have
much of a life), an attorney asked, "As best as you can remember . . ."
It seems to me that in the last few years this phrase has almost
completely replaced "as well as", even among well educated speakers. It
grates on my ears. Am I wrong to think that this is grammatically
incorrect, that you cannot compare a superlative? Is it language
inflation? Or am I just being picky?