Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:55:05 -0600 From: Larry Davis Subject: Re: oj trial The Houck/Davis paper Terry referred to was not about sounding Hoosier. I seriously doubt if anyone would claim that he/she could differentiate a Hoosier from, say, a denizen of Illinois. On the other hand, asking someone if a speaker "sounds black" could be nasty--as though all African-Americans somehow sound the same, with no regional and or sociolinguistic features with differentiate them. I do recall ( I hope correctly) that Roger Shuy's unpublished Detroit study did include a subjective reaction test which showed that Detroiters could distinguish white and black speakers, but that's all I remember. Anecdote isn't evidence, but I havae vivid memories of Raven McDavid's asking Virginia to make dinner reservations, appointments to look at apartments etc. because Raven's (white) Greenville, SC dialect was clearly identified by Chicagoans as marking him as African-American at a time when overt racism ruled (I'm not as naive about that last statement as it sounded. Just in a hurry) And Shuy's sample of speakers did not include representatives of the large lnumber of whites of southern origin who were living in Detroit at the time. AAVE dialects might be easier to identify, but the witness was not a linguist so far as I know. Y'all take care now, ya hear.