Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:01:54 -0800
From: SETH SKLAREY crissiet[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Re: british english question
Growing up in England, in geography we refered to Asian's when we refered
to people generaly and generically from any part of the Asian continent,as
also in European, Australian or even British, on the other hand Indians were
from India, Scots from Scotland, Pakistanies from Pakistan, Sri Lankan were
from Sri Lanka and of course (because of the movies as apposed to Geography
books) Red Indians were American Indians. All of this gets very smudgy when
you get into dialects and derogetary attitudes in Britain, then anything
go'es as they say. But we were taught names, places and people from our
Geography book. I clearly remember the brown skinned lady in a sari (both
very exotic as we had never seen anyone brown, let alone in a sari pre TV at
that time)and the caption underneath said "Tea is grown in Cylon, and is
picked by hand .Tea also grows in India, Pakistan and other countries in
Asia but not in Asia Minor ".etc...etc.. Crissie Trigger
(incidentally, how do we parse "american dialect society"--is it an
american society devoted to dialects or a society devoted to american
dialects?)
i need to know whether "asian" in british english has a sense that
means "south asian/indian." now, i know that "asian" is used to
refer to people of indian/pakistani/sri lankan descent in britain, but
the fact that it is used to refer to these people does not mean that
it has a sense that means "indian"--just like if i refer to my
siblings and they all happen to be male, it doesn't mean that
"siblings" has a sense that is synonymous with "brothers".
so, the best kind of evidence that i could get for an 'indian' sense
would be if it were contrasted with other words for people
from asia--something like "asians and chinese live there" or "the law
discriminates against asians and chinese."
i've checked three british dictionaries and not found this sense, but
then the south african dictionaries don't have the sense either, even
though south african english definitely does have the "south asian
only" sense.
does anyone know or have any references for me to chase down?
thanks as ever,
lynne
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