Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:02:23 -0600
From: Samuel Jones smjones1[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU
Subject: Re: Pseudo-Imitatives / "Conventionalized" Exclamations / &
"Semanticized" Utterances or Noises
From Dennis Preston:
"Since I use 'jeetchet' in my beginning classes as an example of allegro
speech processes and specifically relate it to 'did you eat yet,' I am
surprised to find it on a list of 'non-words,' particularly since the
'jeet' part requires, at least for me, an 'underlying' 'did.'
I will avoid extensive discussion of the more philsophical question about
the word status of some of the other items on this list, but I think one
would like to distinguish several levels . . ."
1) Pseudoimitatives
2) A middle category: items which appear to be 'conventionalizing'
. . . sounds
3) 'Semanticized' noises"
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Thank you!!
I found his posting both informative and fun, and it prompts me to
ask about "harrumph," which HAS made it into some dictionaries. I
may be in error, but I seem to remember a cartoon character, called
Major Hoople, who frequently uttered/exclaimed "Harrumph!" This was
a strip from the late 1920's(?) and through the 1930's(?). I recall
my father often saying, "At the meeting with the county agent, 'Old
Mr. - - - - - - ' "harrrummphed" his way through the evening." And we
all knew (or THOUGHT we knew?) exactly what my father meant.
Ergo, does "harrumph" fall into the category of "humph"? And, can also
be fixed in "time" with a past tense? 'Old Mr. - - - - - - ' was also
referred to as an "old harrumpher," as well as a "harrumphy old man."
How does this fit?
By the way, I remember our Oklahoma boars (no pun intended!) as
beginning THEIR noises with a dark, muffled, deep-throated retroflex-r
sound rather than
"GGGGGmmmmppph. (The noise a real pig makes)"
Perhaps it was only a bit of gas?
smjones
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