Date:    Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:04:52 -0500
<br>From:    Gregory {Greg} Downing  downingg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]IS2.NYU.EDU 
<br>Subject: Re: standardization of non-standard forms
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<br>At 01:25 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
<br> Another pretty common misunderstanding is the use of "jive" where "jibe" =
<br> is
<br> technically correct, as in:
<br> 
<br>         Their view on the issue and mine do not jibe....
<br> 
<br> Frank Abate
<br> OUP US Dictionaries
<br> 
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<br>Yes, this one is pretty common.
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<br>I was staying off this thread because my sense was that the original
<br>enquirer was looking for nonstandardisms that had become standardized in
<br>some regional dialect, and I wasn't sure about regional distributions. If
<br>regional distributions are not an issue, don't forget (among many others):
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<br>"I could care less" (where what is meant is "I couldn't care less")
<br>
<br>"irregardless" (my college roommate used it on a history exam, his major
<br>field, and got called on it by the grader)
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<br>Perhaps these kinds of examples are idiolectic, and created independently by
<br>various individual speakers, as was discussed earlier on this thread. But
<br>they are so common that some people must pick them up from other people,
<br>which pushes them beyond the realm of idiolect. I recall that my roommate
<br>did some research on "irregardless" after being called on it, and several
<br>dictionaries mentioned the word but called it nonstandard and illogical, or
<br>else humorous. If dictionaries feel compelled to mention a usage, it would
<br>seem to have transcended the stage of independent idiolectic innovation.
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<br>Greg Downing/NYU, at greg.downing[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]nyu.edu or downingg[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]is2.nyu.edu
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