Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:20:30 -0500 From: Robert Kelly Subject: Re: Adam's off ox I know the phrase only from bluegrass Kentucky friends, who use it (as Larry Horn describes) the way New Yorkers (at least the ones I grew up with) would say Adam's house-cat. The house-cat form seems "normal" to me, the off-ox a dialect improvement---we can't forget that people take pleasure in speech and coining phrases, though linguists used to take nonce-inventions with solemn unsuspiciousness, I think. Still, I think both house-cat and off-ox are really "improvements" on plain "...from Adam." I don't think they express even greater unfamiliarity. RK