Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 18:30:11 CST From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: subject blooper Yes, people do say the -s in "Ozarks" when it's part of a name. I've heard it. But I haven't had an opportunity to determine whether the name-correctors have "incorrected" the names of the geographical features. "The Ozarks" is really a plateau rather than a range of mountains, though there are some very steep slopes in the Ozarks where some geological uplifting and subsequent erosion have made the terrain what it now is. A question that I posed but has not been addressed by others is whether some of the early maps could reflect archaisms in the dialects of the cartographers. My knowledge of French phonological history (with diachronic variation) is virtually nil, so I wouldn't feel comfortable even specuating about particulars. Mike Picone's reference to the practice of adding a "plural" -s to abbreviations of the names of tribes/ nations/groups of people is much appreciated, supporting my (implicit if not stated) point that the -s in "Ozarks" is not simply a matter of a plural marker. How would one know whether a mapmaker of yore was adding an -s because he said it or because he was following a standard orthographic practice? As Picone's examples show, some orthograpic practices reflect grammar as well as phonology. DMLance