Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 16:57:50 CST
From: salikoko mufwene mufw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: diversity of accents
Natalie:
Based on my field work on Gullah, it seems to me that the media,
especially TV or radio, help people develop additional competence (sometimes
passive only) in other varieties without compelling them to speak this/these
other way(s). What I often noticed among Gullah speakers was that they would
turn to each other in the middle of a program on TV and comment on it in
Gullah. Occasionally they would imitate something in the other variety, as
if to quote it, and then burst into a laughter. I have found
ethnographically naive, if I may use strong language, most of the claims
of language change attributed to media. To paraphrase strongly a statement
in the conclusion of my contribution to the EMERGENCE OF BLACK ENGLISH, it is
almost as if linguistic features could spread, like germs of cold or the
flu, without intimate interaction. When some linguists claim that speakers
of nonstandard varieties imitate educated speech, they just do not realize
that sometimes speakers of nonstandard varieties ridicule educated speech among
themselves! One thing several of us have confused is 'wanting to be treated
equal' with 'wanting to be the same'.
Incidentally, a more elaborate discussion of reasons why Gullah may not be
decreolizing was published in my article "Some reasons why Gullah is not
dying yet" in ENGLISH WORLD-WIDE 12.221-243 (1991). An earlier discussion,
which compared the situation with Southern English, was published in my
review article on LANGUAGE VARIETY IN THE SOUTH (ed. by Montgomery and
Bailey) published in the J. OF PIDGIN AND CREOLE LANGUAGES 2.93-110 (1987).
Salikoko S. Mufwene
Linguistics, U. of Chicago
s-mufwene[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]uchicago.edu
312-702-8531
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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 18:45:00 EST
From: "Dennis.Preston" 22709MGR[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MSU.BITNET
Subject: Re: diversity of accents
Now that I have seen Rudy Troike's and Ellen Johnson's responses to some of my
complaints about the news article on the decline of diversity in US dialects,
I am inclined even more to stick to my original claims.
First, Troike's example of the z -- d/__n (e.g. business becomes bidness)
reversal is pretty obviously correction from above (not change from above). I
believe that the motivations and social history for slapping something down is
significantly different from real change from above.
Second, I welcome Ellen Johnson's comments on her dissertation, for, of
course, the rest of it know it only from her numerous presentations of parts
of it. I am happy to concede that in reinvestigations of dialect
differentiation region as a variable may play a smaller role; my comment,
however, pointed towards total variation, which, I believe, is more or less
the same. Granted, that newer variation may be attributed to ethnicity,
gender, age, rurality, and the like, but I suspect that we must take dialect
in that more general sense if we are to speak productively about variation in
North America.
(Those who dislike my ignoring of the dia- of dialect may try to correct it
from above.)
Of course advertising and media have influenced deteriorating variation in the
dragonfly and cottage cheese sets, and such influences are important and worth
studying. They are not, howeever, exactly the backbone of variationist work in
the US over the last three decades or so.
Finally, and most importantly, I originally responded to the news story
becuase I was angry as hell at the way it went off (not, as some interpreted
it, at the accuracy or inaccuracy of the report).
Let's try another scenario. Suppose a paper in Detroit called me and asked for
some neurolinguistic comment. Since I am generally ignorant, suppose I went to
LINGUIST/L and asked in general for some comments, copied them with no request
for expert screeing and handed them over to a journalist to pick and choose
from. Unless I misunderstand, that's what happened here. I believe the
so-called more scientific community of neurolinguists would be outraged. I
believe those of us who study variation professionally have every right to be
similarly outraged. Progress in the last three decades and the centrality of
variation studies to the most important issues of general linguistics have
removed our subdiscipline rather far from the cocktail-party linguistics
status in which it was once held. The information which reached the paper was,
in my opinion, not much better than popular or common-sense stuff; it did not
reflect professional work at all. I am happy to discuss with colleagues the
details of change from above and media influence which haveensued from this
event, but I was more than a little unhappy to have the serious study of
variation misrepresented once again. Let't try to be a little more
professionally courteous to one another's sub-interests.
Dennis Preston
22709mgr[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]msu.bitnet
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