Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 08:45:28 -0500

From: "William A. Kretzschmar, Jr." billk[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]ATLAS.UGA.EDU

Subject: Re: egg-aig, and dialect diversity



For all afficionados of Wisconsin English out there, the

front-vowel-raising-before-velar phenomenon has gotten some nice work from

Christine Zeller at Penn. She gave an NWAVE paper on it



Dennis, did your Thanksgiving turkey disagree with you? Why is it a bad

thing to try to cooperate with a journalist? If Cathy didn't get the

response you would have preferred when she queried the net, or if the

journalist didn't draw the conclusion you prefer, why is that her fault?

I think she acted in good faith and doesn't deserve a charge of

uncollegiality.



I think we need to question the assertion that some unspecified "media" is

good at causing lexical change. Sure, some words get spread (or even

initiated) by the media, but I am not sure that that is responsible for

change in the existing lexicon, for loss or addition of everyday words.

When was the last time you heard Tom Brokaw talk about cottage cheese and

dragonflies? Ellen Johnson's diss. suggests that there is more variation

than ever among such everyday words, though less of it than 50 years ago

can be attributed (with statistical significance) to the categories we can

track for LAMSAS (region, age, education, biological sex, race,

urban/rural residence). Collapse of some word sets, like cottage cheese,

is better attributed to a commercial term and cultural change (nobody

makes c.c. except big dairies) or genetics and cultural change

(development of stringless green beans) or progress and cultural change

(loss of need for whiffletrees). Other word sets may well have been

increased by the rise of public education, such as spread through reading

of familiarity with standard terms like dragonfly or with out-of-region

variants like seed/pit/stone to accompany local variants; this increase

is a nice counterpoint to the homogenizing loss through education of

nonstandard verb forms. Ellen's dissertation gives the first really good

(i.e. 50-year real-time) evidence for talking about these things, though I

think it can hardly be expected to answer all of the questions the

evidence raises.



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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 11:46:50 -0500

From: chi-wen WANG[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UTKVX.BITNET

Subject: Rock'n Roll



Hello,



I am an international student at UT and have been in the United

States for one and a half years. Since American English is not my native

tongue, I can not understand quite well some words American people use in their

daily life. For example, one guy on my class project team always says,

"Rock'n roll!" It seems that he uses this phrase whenever he thinks

something is great or right. Could anybody out there tell me what he

really means? Does this phrase have something to do with the Rock & Roll

Music? Where does it come from? Any comments would be appreciated.



Sheila Wang

University of Tennessee, Knoxville

Department of Advertising

E-Mail: wang[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]utkvx.utk.edu



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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 12:01:00 EST

From: "Dennis.Preston" 22709MGR[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MSU.BITNET

Subject: Re: egg-aig, and dialect diversi



Bill,

My turkey was OK, but I still do not think that the way to inform the media in

the case of technical information is by collecting random responses from a

network (even if it professionally oriented) and let the journalist take pot

luck at the responses.

On the other matters, I agree with you entirely. I doubt if even in such cases

as the dragonfly and cottage cheese sets we are dealing with real media

influence, and your clarification of some of what Ellen Dissertation shows

backs my earlier claim (I believe) that there is nearly as much variation out

there now as there was 50 yers ago (albeit, of course, in different areas of

the vocabulary and constrained by factors other than regionalism).

Turkey leftovers tonight.

Best,

Dennis

(Damn! Forgot if this is to you are the whole network. Sending it anyhow since

it contains no dirty laundry I can remember.)



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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 16:06:37 -0500

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Subject: Georgetown University Round Table 1994



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Georgetown University Round Table

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March 13 - 16, 1994



Educational Linguistics, Cross-Cultural

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Douglas Brown, San Francisco State University

Braj Kachru, University of Illinois

Stephen Krashen, University of Southern California

Tom McArthur, Oxford University

Jack C. Richards, City Polytechnic of Hong Kong

Bernard Spolsky, Bar-Ilan University

Deborah Tannen, Georgetown University





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Leslie Beebe, Columbia University

Eyamba G. Bokamba, University of Illinois

Jerry Cline-Bailey, Xavier University (Cincinnati)

Nadine O'Connor Di Vito, University of Chicago

Donald Freeman, School for International Training

Rebecca Freeman, University of Pennsylvania

Celeste Kinginger, University of Maryland at College Park

Ronald Leow, Georgetown University

Leo van Lier, Monterey Institute of International Studies

Yu-Hwei Lii-Shih, National Taiwan Normal University

Joan Morley, University of Michigan

Anne Pakir, National University of Singapore

Teresa Pica, University of Pennsylvania

Ren Shaozeng, Hangzhou University (People's Republic of China)

Elana Shohamy, Tel Aviv University (Israel)

Larry E. Smith, East-West Center, University of Hawaii

Zhuang Gen-Yuan, Hangzhou University (People's Republic of China)





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African Linguistics V (Saturday morning)

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Community Interpreting (Friday)

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History of Linguistics (Saturday)

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Georgetown University

Washington, D.C. 20057-1068

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Hypermedia Environments Open House (Friday)

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Georgetown University

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Georgetown University

Washington, D.C. 20057-0990

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Issues in Teaching ASL as a Second Language (Saturday)

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Georgetown University

Washington, D.C. 20057-0991

202/687-6120



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Discourse Analysis: Works in Progress (Sunday)

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 19:48:28 -0600

From: Tim Frazer mftcf[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU

Subject: Re: Rock'n Roll



On Mon, 29 Nov 1993, chi-wen wrote:



Hello,



I am an international student at UT and have been in the United

States for one and a half years. Since American English is not my native

tongue, I can not understand quite well some words American people use in thei

daily life. For example, one guy on my class project team always says,

"Rock'n roll!" It seems that he uses this phrase whenever he thinks

something is great or right. Could anybody out there tell me what he

really means? Does this phrase have something to do with the Rock & Roll

Music? Where does it come from? Any comments would be appreciated.



Sheila Wang

University of Tennessee, Knoxville

Department of Advertising

E-Mail: wang[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]utkvx.utk.edu



Is he saying "right on?"



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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 17:57:27 -0800

From: Donald Livingston deljr[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]U.WASHINGTON.EDU

Subject: Re: th/dh



I'm amazed. In my ignorance I hadn't realized that there was any

dialect of English where we actually had minimal pairs distinguished by

the voiced/voiceless interdental fricatives. I have a request for any

speakers out there who do distinguish pin-pen: please post any

minimal pairs you have noted in your variety of English that

show that voiced/voiceless interdental fricative distinction. I have

failed to come up with any for my own pin/pen distinguishing dialect.



All the best, Don.



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