Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:00:00 LCL

From: "M. Lynne Murphy" 104LYN[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MUSE.ARTS.WITS.AC.ZA

Subject: Re: new york city and upstate



we're "New Yorkers" (specifying that we're from "New York

City" or "the City" [and yes, I'm aware of the arrogance

of that one] if appropriate) or "Long Islanders.



"the city" is definitely area-specific, though. just as donald lance

said "the city" is st. louis (wasn't that it?) in newark, NY, where i

grew up (it's NOWHERE NEAR new jersey!), "the city" is rochester--(as

in "i'm working in the city now") even though we're about

equidistant from rochester and syracuse.



lynne



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