Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:56:47 EST
From: Larry Horn LHORN[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: basketball terms
Greg Pulliam writes,
Another basketball usage that comes to me is the null-possessive, as in
"Duke ball," or "Chicago ball," when the standard is "Duke's ball" or
"Chicago's ball." I've heard this from basketball announcers who are
otherwise speakers of "standard", but I'd guess that they've picked it up
from the players. It seems to be a matter of s- deletion, which is common
in AAVE.
Any thoughts on this.
I tend to doubt it. I think the same construction has been used in broad-
casting football for generations, going back to the pre-TV era: Notre Dame
ball on the Michigan 35 (or whatever). And I also suspect it was used in
basketball before the trend to a preponderance of African-American players.
In both cases, the announcers would likely not have been AAVE speakers. In
any case, I don't think it's s-deletion but something more morphosyntactic:
Chicago ball, maybe, but Bulls' ball, not Bull ball. --Larry