Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:44:52 CST
From: Ellen Johnson Ellen.Johnson[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]WKU.EDU
Subject: Re[2]: vernacular
Yes, Ron has indeed gone on about our inconsistencies in discussing
"the vernacular" for some time and he is my main (positive)
inspiration. But I wonder: if no one will listen to this
distinguished old-timer, why will they care what I say?? Ah, well,
I'll continue on nevertheless.
The negative motivation was my shock at hearing Labov say on the radio
that only poor, inner-city blacks *really* speak AAVE, that anyone who
has learned to code-switch can never go back to speaking the
vernacular in a way that is grammatically consistent. I shouldn't
have been shocked; it is the logical extension of his idea that
people who have been exposed to more dialects will mix them. It makes
sense on one level (and he does have the quantitative evidence), but
it bothers me on another. Like Orton's Survey of English Dialects
where only the most provincial "folk" speakers were interviewed for
the same reason: to obtain the "purest", uncontaminated nonstandard
varieties.
I guess my problem with this is twofold. 1) it shows that we are
still firmly entrenched in structuralism, looking for behavior that we
can write neat rules for and 2)it leads us to focus on speech that is
not really the common, everyday speech for most people in our society,
what I thought "vernacular" was supposed to mean. Or do I have too
much of a middle-class bias here?
Thank you all for your input. Terry is always refreshingly
oppositional to the party line. Dennis and Sali have been a big help
to me in the past and continue to give me new things to think about.
Ellen
ellen.johnson[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]wku.edu
http://www.wku.edu/~ejohnson