Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:55:36 -0500
From: Herb Stahlke hstahlke[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]GW.BSU.EDU
Subject: Lippi-Green's Eng with an Accent -Reply
I have assigned EwaA to my English linguistics
class this term as required reading. I have
never, in thirty years of college teaching, seen
to passionate a response to a book. These
students, largely white middleclass
midwesterners from small towns, find each
chapter an eye-opener in new ways. And the
reactions, the chagrin, the outrage, cut across
the political spectrum. There is also
disagreement with her, which is good to see.
They're engaging another mind in a way that I
have found rare.
Herb Stahlke
"(Dale F. Coye)" Dfcoye[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]AOL.COM
11/23/97 02:36pm
I'm reading Rosina Lippi-Green's new book,
English with an Accent, with great
interest. Lots of good stuff here, but I had to
pause in the section where
she analyzes the Disney feature-length
cartoons. I have no quarrel with the
basic point that stereotyping in some cases
reinforces negative stereotypes
that we should all be working against. But I
can't help thinking - so what
does this mean?-- are we aiming for a society
without any stereotypes at all?
or one where we recognize that it's a human
trait to stereotype and we
should simply be aware of it. Should we protest
when French accented
characters are used for coquettes and lotharios
(her example, Lumiere in
Beauty and the Beast- we could add Mel
Blanc's skunk Pepi la Pyoo) or can we
just have a laugh at the same time
acknowledging that not all Frenchmen are
like that? And by the way, I think the RP
speakers get the meanest parts in
Disney these days: Jaffar in Aladdin, Shere
Khan in The Jungle Book, Scar in
The Lion King are the RP arch-villains. Note
also two errors: She refers to
Jock in the Lady and the Tramp p. 96 as a
lower class 'rough lover,' where
she means the Tramp himself (Jock is the
Scotch Terrier- what accent should
he have if not Scottish?) and she quotes
Herman and Herman's actors' guide to
dialects (which is a pretty good volume by the
way, despite the stereotyping)
"it can be said of the French...that when they
are good, they are very, very
good-- but when they are bad, they are--
Apaches." p. 98, as an instance of
racism- referring to the Native American tribe in
a negative way. An Apache
(ah PAHSH) is a street tough of Paris (who
could forget Bluto and Olive Oyl's
Apache Dance, since we're on the subject of
cartoons).
Dale Coye
Dept. of English
The College of New Jersey