Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:57:24 -0500 From: "Dennis R. Preston" Subject: Re: No 'friend of yours' Seth, The 'friend of yours' who 'explained' that 'friends of mine' is 'redundant' is a linguatwit and ought to be expunged from the list of 'friends of yours.' I guess I might roll my eyes at 'my friends of mine' (but even there I can imagine situations - with contrastive stress - which would make that apparently redundant string perfectly OK). But seriously, what us linguists ought to be doing with such metalinguistic intrusions from nonlinguists is investigating them for the linguistic folk belief they reveal. Here 'redundancy' is taken to be some sort of proscribed language phenomenon, but every beginning linguistics student (and certainly every information science student in general) knows that built-in redundancy in a variety of systems is ordinary (and apprently crucial). Where the folk and the scientists 'disagree' ought to strike us as ground worthy of deepeer ethnographic investigation. But I reckon that that may not surprise some of you that that is my opinion. Dennis Preston > >I often used the phrase "friends of mine" until an erudite friend >explained that "of mine" made the phrase redundant. I argued half-heartedly >that they could have been friends of someone else, but came to accept >the hypothesis and dropped the prepositional phrase. What say you all? > >Seth Sklarey