Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:09:25 -0800 From: THOMAS CLARK Subject: Re: Gnarly Gnews! Actually, the (g)narl(e)y news is presented in the most freewheeling Dictionary of Surfing Terms ever written: THE SURFIN'ary, by Trevor Cralle. It was a term that Cralle has as "gnar-gnar; gnarlatious; gnarly; gnarlness (a term of obeisance); gnarled; gnarler; gnarly-ass; total gnarler; AND nar, narly "see gnarly" Cheers tlc On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, Dan Moonhawk Alford wrote: > Excellent, Joan! I was referring to the "fashions of speaking" that > spread the word widely rather than its origin, which you have (by > experience?) rightly pinpointed. In fact, prompted by this discussion, > the person I keep referring to as "my wife" (Dr. Marilyn Silva) last > night in a class mentioned this topic word and -- lo and behold! -- found > a native speaker of SurferTalk who told her exactly the same information. > The expression comes from all the dings resulting in bumps from being > thrown off boards, battered by surf, etc. For this speaker, the word is > definitely with a non-optional "g" because of the gnarled appearance. > However, it is not surprising that even some native speakers of this > dialect (?) do not know its origin and therefore reanalyze it to have > either a different silent letter in spelling (k) or none at all. Both > Marilyn and I are sure we've seen 'Narly!' written before (where?). > > On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, Joan C. Cook wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, Dan Moonhawk Alford wrote: > > > > > PS -- my wife also is of the opinion that looking up Valley Girl Talk in > > > Webster's is a case of misplaced authority. > > > > :-) > > > > Well, actually, Dan, (g)narly isn't Valley Girl Talk, it's Surfer (and > > Skateboarder) Talk. :-) > > > > --Joan (who's too many miles from that part of the world to be licensed > > to talk about it) > > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > Joan C. Cook Imagination is > > Department of Linguistics more important > > Georgetown University than knowledge. > > Washington, D.C., USA > > cookj[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]gusun.georgetown.edu --Albert Einstein > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > > > > > > > > > > >