Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:34:34 -0500 From: "Dennis R. Preston" Subject: Re: basketball terms Greg, I doubt the player-origin of this "deletion." In fact, I suspect it is not the morphologically and/or phonologically motivated deletion of possessive {s} at all but a sports-announcer short-form for something like "the ball belongs to Duke or "Duke has the ball" (although I usually prefer to see Louisville have it). I don't have Ferguson's SAT (Sports Announcer Talk) article (fron Language in Society, I think) in front of me, but he mentions a number of these processes there; this might be among them. DInIs (jump-shot) Preston >Another basketball usage that comes to me is the null-possessive, as in >"Duke ball," or "Chicago ball," when the standard is "Duke's ball" or >"Chicago's ball." I've heard this from basketball announcers who are >otherwise speakers of "standard", but I'd guess that they've picked it up >from the players. It seems to be a matter of s- deletion, which is common >in AAVE. > >Any thoughts on this. > >Greg Dennis R. Preston Department of Linguistics and Languages Michigan State University East Lansing MI 48824-1027 USA preston[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]pilot.msu.edu Office: (517)353-0740 Fax: (517)432-2736