Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:07:30 CDT

From: "Donald M. Lance" ENGDL[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MIZZOU1.BITNET

Subject: Re: -"had" Constructions



Se me ocurrio' cuando lei' el mensaje de Judith Rascoe that any language

oughta give the speaker syntactic escape hatches for deflecting blame--any

self-respecting language, that is. It has occurred itself to me also that,

caramba!, Chinese does something "funny" with the equivalent of 'occur'

because I've seen "was occurred" in the writing of Chinese students. A

couple of times I asked if the Chinese equivalent of 'occur' was sort of

like a passive; the response was affirmative.



On a comparative/contrastive note, the discussed of these 'have' constructions

reminds me that 'be' and 'have'='own' use the same word in, I think, Swahili,

with sort of a dative construction in the latter use.

DMLance