Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 02:00:00 LCL

From: "M. Lynne Murphy" 104LYN[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MUSE.ARTS.WITS.AC.ZA

Subject: Re: go/come with



fritz said:



leaving out the object in "go/come with" is typical of northern

illinois and other parts of the midwest, and presumed by many to be

from germanic influence.

Lynne, what do you mean when you say that this is presumed to be from

"germanic" influence? Don't you mean GERMAN influence? If this is

indeed a transfer from German, it should not be thought of as "leaving

out the object", as the German verbs 'mitgehen' and 'mitkommen' are

separable verbs which require no object. BTW, my wife,

a native Oregonian, says "go/come with." It sounds odd to me in English,

though; but now that we are in Minnesota, she feels right at home.

Fritz Juengling





i said "germanic" because i'm not sure that it is from german, since

there is a large and (linguistically) influential scandinavian

population in that area, and maybe it's from there, i don't know. it

seems to me that this query was answered within the last year either

on this list or on Linguist--does anyone remember?



certainly, in south africa (my other e.g.) i need to say "germanic"

since it came from afrikaans.



lynne



______________________________________________________________________

M. Lynne Murphy

Lecturer, Dept. of Linguistics phone: 27(11)716-2340

University of the Witwatersrand fax: 27(11)716-8030

Johannesburg 2050 e-mail: 104lyn[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]muse.arts.wits.ac.za

South Africa





______________________________________________________________________

M. Lynne Murphy

Lecturer, Dept. of Linguistics phone: 27(11)716-2340

University of the Witwatersrand fax: 27(11)716-8030

Johannesburg 2050 e-mail: 104lyn[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]muse.arts.wits.ac.za

South Africa