Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 12:37:25 -0400
From: Bob Lancaster SLANCASTER[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]CENTER.COLGATE.EDU
Subject: born in a barn
We have always used "born in a barn" primarily to refer to failure to close the
door, but secondarily in reference to any actions that treat the house as if it
might as well be a barn--eg., leaving clothes on the floor, shouting and
yelling, etc. Hence to some degree the phrase is concerned with "manners."
In this regard, by the way, I don't believe the distinction between manners and
ethics and morals which Lew Sanbourne made is entirely valid. Truly good
manners are not concerned simply with elbows on the table; their rational is
surely the need to act with kindness, compassion, and gentility in all the
appropriate circumstances. Seen this way, they cover a lot of virtues.ra
Bob Lancaster
SUNY emeritus - English
(Sorry about that - "rationale")