Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:52:29 EDT

From: DANIELLE L LEVITT dllevi01[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]MOREHEAD-ST.EDU

Subject: Re: icebox and upstate (fwd)



David Wrote:





A storyteller in the lower Hudson Valley has been having a bit of a debate

with another person on the definition of upstate in New York. He grew up in

Westcherster (I believe). That's the first county in New York State north of

New York City. To residents of New York City and Westchester/Putnam County,

where does upstate begin? Pick a town (or city) or other landmark. In terms

of the linguistic atlas data, I suspect that the increase of territory in the

commutershed of New York City has pushed the "line" north at least to

Poughkeepsie on the eastern bank of the Hudson River. West of the Hudson

River the "line" may be as close as Newburgh or even farther south.



David K. Barnhart

Barnhart[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]Highlands.com





Being from the Hudson Valley and having much family from the Bronx and in and

around Manhatten, it always seemed that to the folks living within the city,

upstate New York began right outside the city limits. Say, maybe, Orange

County. But to me, living about an hour outside the city, right next to

West Point, upstate New York seemed more like past Albany. And central New

York was asound Syracuse.



Danielle Levitt

dllevi01[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]morehead-st.edu