Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:45:10 EDT
From: Larry Horn LHORN[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: y'all are crazy
I was wondering the same thing, and in particular whether the policeman would
have asked "Would y'all step out of the car" if he WERE addressing more than
one occupant. (Or, if that context appears unlikely, if he stopped a couple
of folks on the street and asked them "Do y'all have some ID?" or whatever.)
If _y'all_ is used in such cases, it appears that it is indeed a socioling.
variable. But notice that it's just in those contexts where, say, a French
speaker uses the historic plural for 2d person sg., i.e. in formal rather than
friendly exchanges, that the policeman avoids the historic plural. In the
terms of the Goffman-Brown-Levinson tradition, _yall_ seems to involve
positive face (or what Robin Lakoff called Rule 3 politeness: "Be friendly")
while _vous_ et al. invoke negative face (Lakoff's Rule 1 politeness,
Deference). I suppose I should make sure the descriptive generalization is
accurate before leaping off to conclusions, though.
Larry
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It may appear at times
that "y'all" is being used in the singular, but I assure you that is not
the case. I liked Tom Wharriet's explanation of the implied plural
meaning "you and yours." I think that thorough research would conclude
that there is always some implied or connoted plural meaning even when it
might seem otherwise.
in lotsa languages (and so many unrelated ones that this seems not
to be an entirely arbitrary association), the plural form implies
politeness--couldn't this be what is going on? seems to go with what
was said about salesmen and friendly people using it, but not the
police officer who's caught you doing something naughty.
lynne
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