Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:07:30 CDT From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: -"had" Constructions Se me ocurrio' cuando lei' el mensaje de Judith Rascoe that any language oughta give the speaker syntactic escape hatches for deflecting blame--any self-respecting language, that is. It has occurred itself to me also that, caramba!, Chinese does something "funny" with the equivalent of 'occur' because I've seen "was occurred" in the writing of Chinese students. A couple of times I asked if the Chinese equivalent of 'occur' was sort of like a passive; the response was affirmative. On a comparative/contrastive note, the discussed of these 'have' constructions reminds me that 'be' and 'have'='own' use the same word in, I think, Swahili, with sort of a dative construction in the latter use. DMLance