End of ADS-L Digest - 20 Sep 1995 to 21 Sep 1995

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There are 36 messages totalling 882 lines in this issue.



Topics of the day:



 1. culinary excesses (2)

 2. teeth/tooths

 3. Positive 'anymore'

 4. acceptability/grammaticality judgments, please (6)

 5. Plural Proper Nouns (4)

 6. 'dental dam' (8)

 7. Conference: Atlantic Provinces Linguistic Association

 8. cunnilingus (3)

 9. acceptability/grammaticality judgments, please -Reply (2)

 10. Pulitzer Prze

 11. tardys vs. tardies

 12. Terminology of unexcused absences

 13. 'dental dam' (fwd)

 14. copy-ed re web usage urrl (fwd) (2)

 15. Gordon Bennett and friends

 16. cunning



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Date:  Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:06:48 -0400

From:  ALICE FABER <faber[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]HASKINS.YALE.EDU>

Subject: culinary excesses



Tom Clark wrote:



| Around here (Las Vegas) we have the most powerful union of all (step back

| AFL-CIO, geddawdahere Teamsters!): the CULINARY union.

|

| Each year the Nevada Language Survey conducts a survey on:

|  /K[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]l/ (schwa)

|  /KYUL/

|  /KOO/ (/ku/ for those in the know)

|

| Nearly every year since 1976 the results have changed. I suspect it is

| due to the local television news broadcasters or the blue-jowled leaders

| of the union who change every few months. But each year it has been

| different. Almost each year.



Rima McKinzey wrote:



| I've heard both variants for culinary often enough, the first sy\llable of

| one rhyming with "dull" and the other with "few"- but I've never heard one

| rhyming with "too." Is this really common in Nevada?



Tom Clark wrote:



| /ku/ is rare and seems to me to be a hypercorrection or

| hyperurbanization. I've noticed it when someone is trying to be VERY

| articulate in an interview or on TV.



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I can see I'm going to have to pay attention to how the CIA is referred to

next time I visit my parents; in the Hudson Valley (which, btw, is a non South

Midlands or any other kind of Midlands enclave of postive _anymore_), of

course, CIA refers to the _Culinary Institute of America_, training ground for

high-priced members of the union about which Tom writes. [[note for tourists:

it's in Hyde Park NY, near the FDR Library, and has several restaurants on

premises, so the budding chefs can practice...]] Now that I'm thinking about

it, I don't know whether I'd say /kyu/-linary or /kull/-inary (as in _cull_ or

_pull_, which have the same vowel for me); I can't imagine /ku/-linary.



Alice Faber